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En novembre, le journaliste français Frédéric de Natal a interviewé SAR le Prince Davit Bagrationi de Géorgie . Monsieur de Natal, qui est un ami cher, m'a donné la permission de publier la traduction en anglais de son interview avec le chef de la Maison royale des Bagrationi . Frédéric de Natal se concentre principalement sur l'actualité des familles royales du monde ; il est le créateur du site Monarchies et Dynasties du Monde .
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Frédéric de Natal (FdN) : « La révolution russe de 1917 a contraint votre famille à l’exil. Vous êtes né à Madrid, en Espagne, et y avez vécu une grande partie de votre vie. Comment avez-vous vécu cet exil ? »
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| Le prince David Bagrationi de Géorgie et le roi Felipe VI d'Espagne. |
Prince David : « L’Espagne a toujours accueilli un grand nombre de familles royales d’Europe de l’Est. Nous serons toujours redevables à ce merveilleux pays, dont les habitants nous ont toujours traités avec beaucoup d’amour et de respect, qu’ils soient monarchistes ou non. Je garde une certaine tendresse de mes années d’exil, qui ont duré pour moi vingt-sept ans. J’ai encore de la famille et des amis proches là-bas et je garde un lien particulier avec ce pays. Dans notre chagrin de ne pas avoir vécu dans notre patrie, je dois admettre que nous avons eu beaucoup de chance. »
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FdN : « En 1995, le prince Georges Bagration, votre père, est revenu dans votre pays, la Géorgie. Quels souvenirs gardez-vous de votre père ? »
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| Feu le prince Giorgi Bagrationi. |
Prince David: “My father put his feet on Georgian soil for the first time in the early 1990s, after the fall of the Communist regime. He returned for the reburial of my great-grandparents, who had died in Spain. Today all three rest in the Royal Pantheon of Svetiskhoveli Cathedral, in Mtskheta, a town near Tbilisi. Twelve years after the death of my father, his spirit is still very close to me. He always held a deep love for Georgia. He was a true patriot, who was the head of our house for thirty-one years and who never let himself be influenced by the different political parties, including during the years of crisis and the civil war which broke out after Georgian independence. With the advice he gave me, I can keep my feet on the ground.“
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FdN: “You are today the legitimate heir to the throne of Georgia. What are your current activities as head of the Royal House?“
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| Prince David Bagrationi and Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex. |
Prince David: “Georgia is now a presidential republic, which greatly limits my activities within the country. And yet, there is still a lot of work to be done. I am involved in charitable organizations and I am also involved in various environmental projects. I try to attract foreign investors in order to make Georgia internationally known by emphasising the history of its ancient dynasty: its culture, customs, and traditions.“
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FdN: “Like your father, you are passionate about motor racing. Is it a job you would have liked to pursue and why?“
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| Prince Davit Bagrationi and his son Prince Giorgi. |
Prince David: “Yes I am! Not only am I passionate about motor racing, but about in motorsports in general. When I was younger, I spent more time riding motorcycles and racing. I have learned a lot through motorsport. Things such as being serious, courageous, focused, disciplined, always remaining calm in extreme situations, making correct decisions in milliseconds – all which are essential elements to master the basics of this sport. In recent years, I have participated in thirty car races. In fact, last August I did an endurance race which consisted of crossing Georgia from the sea to the mountainous areas without setting foot at once. Three days of competition where I discovered young talents. I think this sport should be promoted by more institutions and business, it would allow Georgia to have a very positive impact abroad, much better than any of our current commercials. I find that sport is generally an excellent promotional tool for a country.“
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FdN: “In 2018, you were invited to attend the swearing-in of President Salome Zourabishvili. What is your current relationship with the Georgian government?“
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| Prince Davit Bagrationi and President Salome Zourabishvili. |
Prince David: “This was an important ceremony, as the inauguration took place in the palace of the last king of Kartl-Kakheti in Telavi, an area in eastern Georgia internationally known for its wines. On several occasions in recent years, President Zourabishvili has spoken out in favor of the return of the monarchy. She understands the advantages Georgia could get from a possible replacement of the head of state by a constitutional monarch. The relationship that we [the Bagrationi dynasty] have with the government is excellent, and we hope that this positive dialogue will continue well into the future.“
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FdN: “Does the Royal House of Bagrationi enjoy a special status in Georgia like that one in Romania or Montenegro? If not, would you like to get a special status?“
Prince David: “Being able to live in our country is already a special status in itself. The royal house has not asked for favors from any Georgian government. But I would like a better supervision and a better protection of the historical heritage of my ancestors. It is always believed that when a royal house is overthrown, here in Georgia it was by a foreign country [Russia], then that dynasty has no longer has any rights. I deeply regret that some of the businessmen who live in our former properties use the history of my ancestors, including our coat of arms, for commercial purposes. I think this should be better regulated today.“
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FdN: “Legislative elections were held this month. Two monarchist movements participated in this election but achieved very poor results. How do you explain this when the polls about the monarchal restoration issue seem to be significantly growing?“
Prince David: “To tell you the truth, there are very few political parties in Georgia which are in favour of the reestablishment of the monarchy. I think we have to be very careful about this. I recall that kings are above parties, acting for the common good, far away from partisan and political quarrels.“
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FdN: “The Union of Georgian Traditionalists is the oldest monarchist movement and was founded by your grandfather, Prince Irakli, in 1939. Upon independence, the party lead the Supreme Council of the Republic of Georgia (1991-1992) before the beginning of the civil war. There were even talks of a possible restoration of the monarchy. Are you in contact with them?“
Prince David: “In the 1990s, it was a real political force. Today, they barely exceed the 1% mark in elections. I do not follow their activities closely, but I have maintained a friendship with one of the former member of the party.“
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FdN: “His Holiness Patriarch Ilia II, the highest religious authority in Georgia, has called many times for a return of the constitutional monarchy. Several political parties have expressed support for this initiative, but this issue divides Georgians. Do you think that the monarchy is the solution that will put an end to the crises which follow one by one in the country and which will achieve its unity? Which political parties today support the return of the monarchy?“
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| Prince David Bagrationi and Patriarch Ilia II. |
Prince David: “I have great respect and love for His Holiness Patriarch Ilia II. For many years, he said himself that he was in favour of a restoration, with all that that implies, and I am very grateful for his courage. Just as I am thankful for the advice that he has given me over the years. Some political parties have expressed their support, or pseudo-support, for the return of the monarchy, but an honest situation must be made of this issue. Indeed, I fear that some of these parties are using the idea of monarchy as a weapon in order to weaken their opponents, who do not hesitate to attack us. Others have wanted or are trying to circumvent the ancient rules of succession of our dynasty by proposing other pretenders to the throne.“
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FdN: “If tomorrow you were King of Georgia, what would be your first decisions?“
Prince David: “Surely that I would seek to nominate a member of the Royal House of Bagrationi in Georgia to succeed me at one time or another, an heir who is Orthodox, who meets the rules of dynastic succession, who is independent, and who has the necessary strength to deal with such a difficult task as that of being a sovereign.“
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FdN: “It was Russia that ended the independence of the Kingdom of Georgia in 1812 and annexed the country into the Russian empire. This dominance lasted until the fall of the Soviet Union. In 2008, Russia briefly invaded Georgia. What were your feelings at that time?“
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| Prince Davit with Georgian soldiers during the 2008 conflict. |
Prince David : « En ces temps de guerre, vous comprenez ce que signifie la barbarie. C’est aussi le symbole de la nature déchue de l’homme en tant qu’être humain. Personne ne sort vraiment vainqueur de conflits meurtriers. Nous savons ce que signifie le mot « paix », et nous l’avons compris encore plus dans ce cas précis. Nous avons réussi à privilégier le dialogue mené dans le respect mutuel. Vous savez, quelle que soit la diversité des opinions de chacun dans ce genre de contexte, nous devons toujours trouver un moyen d’éviter la confrontation, et encore plus lorsqu’il y a un conflit armé. »
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FdN : « Selon vous, la religion ne peut pas être séparée de la monarchie et rester le ciment de la nation géorgienne ? »
Prince David : « Sans aucun doute ! Les rois géorgiens et les patriarches qui se sont succédés ont toujours été en parfaite harmonie depuis mille ans. En fait, certains de mes ancêtres étaient également patriarches de Géorgie. Je reste convaincu que notre religion est une source d’unité pour tous les Géorgiens. »
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Né à Madrid le 24 juin 1976, le prince Davit Bagrationi est le fils du prince Georges Bagrationi (1944-2008) et de sa première épouse doña María de las Mercedes de Zornoza y Ponce de León (1942-2020) . Par son père, le prince est un cousin de la grande-duchesse Maria Vladimirovna de Russie, cheffe de la maison impériale des Romanov. En 2009, le prince Davit a épousé la princesse Anna Bagrationi ; le couple a eu un fils, le prince Giorgi (né en 2011). Le prince Davit Bagrationi, qui vit en Géorgie, est Grand Maître Grand Collier de l'Ordre de l'Aigle de Géorgie.
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